Perhaps AHPRA will soon feel sufficiently as vulnerable as MDAN to be deemed to have abrogated it’s responsibility in regards to it’s charter to protect patients from dangerous or inappropriate care? If and when we see in Australia class actions, (as we understand there are in train in the UK, post Tavistock) AHPRA could be a powerful enough body to encourage future legislators to protect vulnerable children , which action could be relied upon ( in the event of being held partially responsible for inaction) to provide evidence towards reducing their share of inaction. The colleges are seemingly a long lost cause.
To clarify:”AHPRA could be a powerful enough body to encourage future legislators to enact legislation to protect vulnerable children, ( and clinicians by redacting the anti conversion therapy legislation) which action could be relied upon by the statuary body, in any claim ( of failure to fulfill their charter) to provide evidence for supporting claims for reducing their own level of exposure, deemed to be incurred by their share of inaction”
Plausibly any class actions in the future could target State Health departments, ( via their responsibility for paediatric gender clinics) and Federal regulatory body ( AHPRA) ,and , potentially, perhaps even the colleges could be deemed to have their share to have contributed to adverse outcomes?
Do we have any information about how wide such a net is being cast in the U.K.? Has the U.K. equivalent of AHPRA been included in baring a share of responsibility for adverse outcomes in class actions?
We are told that there are some one thousand actions in train.
The role of AHPRA needs looking into, Andrew. My impression now is that the regulator is being used (willingly?) by gender-affirming zealots seeking to punish & neutralise independent thinking & perfectly ethical practitioners.
Bernard, do we have any information about the focus of U.K. class actions? Specifically has their equivalent of AHPRA ( or even their colleges) been targeted? Hard to imagine how statutory regulatory bodies could escape being deemed responsible for their “ sins of omission and commission “.
Only aware of one class action planned against the Tavistock. No update yet on whether or not it will go ahead. Not sure what the AHPRA equivalent is in the UK. The General Medical Council did take action against two doctors doing gender medicine, with mixed results.
Perhaps important to verify the stated “ one thousand “ class actions pending in the UK,!lest such a claim may risk being deemed “misinformation “ soon!
Australian indigenous persons aged 15 to 24 years have five times the self-harm and four times the suicide rate of their non-indigenous counterparts.
Although I can find no reference as to the prevalence of gender dysphoria (GD) in indigenous children and young, I assume that it would not be higher than the non-indigenous group and would probably be significantly lower.
The extent taken to prevent self-harm and suicide in non-indigenous GD cohort includes hormones and complex surgeries as outlined in this article when (as an aside I can find no documentation of a single suicide related to GD in Australia).
Meanwhile the indigenous statistics remain as referenced with no apparent sense of urgency.
Hello Vincent, the modern trans movement insists that indigenous peoples also had trans identities & the terminology used for Aboriginal Australia is "sister girl/brother boy". It looks like an anachronism projected back in time to validate identity politics claims of today, but I haven't seen any critical discussion of this.
I am late getting to this and I am horrified. I am just struggling to understand how professional medicos can do this to minors. I also wonder how many teaching staff in medical schools in Australia these days have any actual clinical experience
What I was thinking was whether there was some way that medical opinion could be accurately gauged... but of course that same fear and censorship would prevent anyone from attempting such a measure.
This shows that MDAN made a very good decision to withdraw indemnity for gender affirmation treatments.
Certainly puts the focus on assessment.
Perhaps AHPRA will soon feel sufficiently as vulnerable as MDAN to be deemed to have abrogated it’s responsibility in regards to it’s charter to protect patients from dangerous or inappropriate care? If and when we see in Australia class actions, (as we understand there are in train in the UK, post Tavistock) AHPRA could be a powerful enough body to encourage future legislators to protect vulnerable children , which action could be relied upon ( in the event of being held partially responsible for inaction) to provide evidence towards reducing their share of inaction. The colleges are seemingly a long lost cause.
To clarify:”AHPRA could be a powerful enough body to encourage future legislators to enact legislation to protect vulnerable children, ( and clinicians by redacting the anti conversion therapy legislation) which action could be relied upon by the statuary body, in any claim ( of failure to fulfill their charter) to provide evidence for supporting claims for reducing their own level of exposure, deemed to be incurred by their share of inaction”
Plausibly any class actions in the future could target State Health departments, ( via their responsibility for paediatric gender clinics) and Federal regulatory body ( AHPRA) ,and , potentially, perhaps even the colleges could be deemed to have their share to have contributed to adverse outcomes?
Do we have any information about how wide such a net is being cast in the U.K.? Has the U.K. equivalent of AHPRA been included in baring a share of responsibility for adverse outcomes in class actions?
We are told that there are some one thousand actions in train.
The role of AHPRA needs looking into, Andrew. My impression now is that the regulator is being used (willingly?) by gender-affirming zealots seeking to punish & neutralise independent thinking & perfectly ethical practitioners.
Bernard, do we have any information about the focus of U.K. class actions? Specifically has their equivalent of AHPRA ( or even their colleges) been targeted? Hard to imagine how statutory regulatory bodies could escape being deemed responsible for their “ sins of omission and commission “.
Only aware of one class action planned against the Tavistock. No update yet on whether or not it will go ahead. Not sure what the AHPRA equivalent is in the UK. The General Medical Council did take action against two doctors doing gender medicine, with mixed results.
So the previous information, stating some “ one thousand” pending is dubious? Seems a long one from “ one”!
Perhaps important to verify the stated “ one thousand “ class actions pending in the UK,!lest such a claim may risk being deemed “misinformation “ soon!
Australian indigenous persons aged 15 to 24 years have five times the self-harm and four times the suicide rate of their non-indigenous counterparts.
Although I can find no reference as to the prevalence of gender dysphoria (GD) in indigenous children and young, I assume that it would not be higher than the non-indigenous group and would probably be significantly lower.
The extent taken to prevent self-harm and suicide in non-indigenous GD cohort includes hormones and complex surgeries as outlined in this article when (as an aside I can find no documentation of a single suicide related to GD in Australia).
Meanwhile the indigenous statistics remain as referenced with no apparent sense of urgency.
Hello Vincent, the modern trans movement insists that indigenous peoples also had trans identities & the terminology used for Aboriginal Australia is "sister girl/brother boy". It looks like an anachronism projected back in time to validate identity politics claims of today, but I haven't seen any critical discussion of this.
Interesting Bernard,
Having worked extensively as a doctor in remote indigenous communities I have never heard such terminology referred to
You haven't been consuming enough ABC Queer content, Vincent.
In Canada, the counterpart is "2 spirit", but not all are convinced https://objectnow.org/debunking-the-two-spirit-myth/
I am late getting to this and I am horrified. I am just struggling to understand how professional medicos can do this to minors. I also wonder how many teaching staff in medical schools in Australia these days have any actual clinical experience
There is so much fear & censorship that we don’t know the true state of medical opinion.
Depressing. Just thinking of whether this some way that can be accurately gave. I suppose it would require some formal research
formal study but I can't imagine any University undertaking it due to that same fear and censorship.
Sorry my screen just got the jitters and I mistyped.
What I was thinking was whether there was some way that medical opinion could be accurately gauged... but of course that same fear and censorship would prevent anyone from attempting such a measure.
There is no easy way out of this.
. . . . and the 'bottom surgery' story is where it gets really frightening.