Wow - what an excellent, thorough, and well-deserved take-down of the state of gender identity ideology around children here in New Zealand! Thanks, Bernard.
Interesting how health pathways/PATHA strongly push gender affirming hormone treatment (GAHT) and then at the same time acknowledge that gender identify can change and is not fixed. 🤔
Incoherent, maybe? Lots of talk about “breaking the gender binary” but trans is so binary it may require the body to be changed. How to reconcile the immutable gender identity protected by law with the idea of gender fluidity? Maybe the believers themselves struggle to make sense of it.
It is interesting to note that the RCH Website still states that puberty blockers are reversible (copied below) and no mention made of possible signficant developmental side effects that are currently being discussed:
1. Puberty suppression
Puberty blockers – prescribed by a paediatrician or paediatric endocrinologist.
Puberty blockers suppress the development of secondary sex characteristics and are used for adolescents in the early stages of pubertal development. As they are reversible in their effects, should an adolescent wish to stop taking them at any time, their biological puberty will resume.
In a newsletter to families of patients RCH has admitted that the effects of blockers on the brain are unknown. I don’t know how that statement is reconciled with the claim you highlight Vincent. B
Wonder how discussions (if any) between clients, their parents and the treating paediatrician/endocrinologist might proceed? Sorry, but the information we gave concerning no negative side effects of puberty blockers was, in fact, inaccurate. PBs are actually harmful to your/your child's body and their impact is not "reversible" as previously stated.
The close contact and co-operation between RCH Gender Clinic and the Stonewall has turned out to be regrettable.
No, no, - forget I admitted the above as there may be legal repercussions.
So not only do we have a high rate per head of the adolescent NZ population it would appears with 65 of 100 (or presumably 65%) of children at the Christchurch clinic on puberty blockers that there is also, at least in one clinic, an extremely high referral to medication rate. I wonder how that compares to the UK?
Bernard,
I don't know what parents are being told however if you look at the website they state 'reversable'.
It would not seem appropriate to make such statement in the light of current knowledge:
https://www.rch.org.au/adolescent-medicine/gender-service/
Rgds
Vincent
Wow - what an excellent, thorough, and well-deserved take-down of the state of gender identity ideology around children here in New Zealand! Thanks, Bernard.
Thanks Katrina. I had good help!
Bernard
Is it okay to share this from your Substack?
Yes, please do, Katrina.
B
Interesting how health pathways/PATHA strongly push gender affirming hormone treatment (GAHT) and then at the same time acknowledge that gender identify can change and is not fixed. 🤔
Incoherent, maybe? Lots of talk about “breaking the gender binary” but trans is so binary it may require the body to be changed. How to reconcile the immutable gender identity protected by law with the idea of gender fluidity? Maybe the believers themselves struggle to make sense of it.
It is interesting to note that the RCH Website still states that puberty blockers are reversible (copied below) and no mention made of possible signficant developmental side effects that are currently being discussed:
1. Puberty suppression
Puberty blockers – prescribed by a paediatrician or paediatric endocrinologist.
Puberty blockers suppress the development of secondary sex characteristics and are used for adolescents in the early stages of pubertal development. As they are reversible in their effects, should an adolescent wish to stop taking them at any time, their biological puberty will resume.
In a newsletter to families of patients RCH has admitted that the effects of blockers on the brain are unknown. I don’t know how that statement is reconciled with the claim you highlight Vincent. B
Wonder how discussions (if any) between clients, their parents and the treating paediatrician/endocrinologist might proceed? Sorry, but the information we gave concerning no negative side effects of puberty blockers was, in fact, inaccurate. PBs are actually harmful to your/your child's body and their impact is not "reversible" as previously stated.
The close contact and co-operation between RCH Gender Clinic and the Stonewall has turned out to be regrettable.
No, no, - forget I admitted the above as there may be legal repercussions.
So not only do we have a high rate per head of the adolescent NZ population it would appears with 65 of 100 (or presumably 65%) of children at the Christchurch clinic on puberty blockers that there is also, at least in one clinic, an extremely high referral to medication rate. I wonder how that compares to the UK?
In the Keira Bell court finding corresponding figures were 2517 referrals to 161 endocrinologist referrals https://www.judiciary.uk/judgments/r-on-the-application-of-quincy-bell-and-a-v-tavistock-and-portman-nhs-trust-and-others/ (paras 29-31) for the years 2019 and 2018 respectively.
Thanks. Will clarify that 65 figure.
Data is messy. NZ & UK with national health systems may give a clearer picture than Australia & US with decentralised systems.
B
That’s the word! Or contradictory? Jarring? Nonsensical?
Yes, all of those things. I guess it must be a response to various convoluted impulses in the culture.