It is also the responsibility of the LGBI communities to stand up for children. This hive mind that all parts of the Rainbow Flag are permanently glued together is ridiculous. By association, the rest of the Rainbow Alliance are also condoning the medical sterilization of children and I'm sure that can't be the case. Perhaps they are too scared to speak out and gee, doesn't that say something. I'd love to see an LGB without the T float in the Sydney Mardi-Gras parade.
Feb 10, 2023·edited Feb 10, 2023Liked by Bernard Lane
Yes. When I first started following Gays against Groomers I though it was Grays Against Groomers - a collection of old folk standing up for kids. True! I've since been to the ophthalmologist & have very bad cataracts. First replacement next Friday, other 2 weeks after. How many other things have I misread!!!!
"But if you don’t start treatment, they will always have trouble fitting in."
There it is. Right there. He assumes these kids will choose, and that it is best for them when they are mature adults, to medically transition. As if there is no other possible option for them. How on earth would he know? No one knows how to predict at that age and even older ones, where there are comorbidities, or developmental issues, or many other things....even older ones only have temporary gender dysphoria. What on earth is wrong with his thinking that he doesn't see this!???
Interestingly Melbourne’s ‘The Royal Children’s Hospital Gender Service’ website states:
"1. Puberty suppression
Puberty blockers – prescribed by a paediatrician or paediatric endocrinologist.
Puberty blockers suppress the development of secondary sex characteristics and are used for adolescents in the early stages of pubertal development. As they are reversible in their effects, should an adolescent wish to stop taking them at any time, their biological puberty will resume."
I wonder if that statement would withstand scrutiny?
It definitely wouldn't, which is why the Tavistock clinic, which had been making similar claims, had to revise the statements on their website to something much more circumspect, in which they admitted that the long-term effects are unknown.
Gender health care is the only branch of medicine that seeks to damage or destroy healthy organs and natural functions. The fact that they're doing this to children who cannot knowingly consent to losing adult functions is unconscionable. And for what? A mysterious inner spirt that cannot be located or defined that they call "identity".
Of course every human who does indefensible things to another human has an ideological justification and these clinicians have wilfully stupefied themselves to avoid acknowlegding the reality of what they're doing.
In the words of Dietrich Bonhoeffer: “The fact that the stupid person is often stubborn must not blind us to the fact that he is not independent. In conversation with him, one virtually feels that one is dealing not at all with a person, but with slogans, catchwords and the like that have taken possession of him. He is under a spell, blinded, misused, and abused in his very being. Having thus become a mindless tool, the stupid person will also be capable of any evil and at the same time incapable of seeing that it is evil."
I would like to add there are other branches of medicine that seeks to damage or destroy healthy organs and natural functions. Included are infant circumcision and psychiatric neurosurgery, formerly called psychosurgery, the best-known type is now out-of-fashion lobotomy. Also ECT.
You’re right of course, but lobotomy is no longer practised and penile circumcision doesn’t alter the organ or it’s function to anything like the degree that gender medicine damages organs and functions eg by completely removing organs or damaging them chemically, and by permanently deranging a person’s physiology. I know some will disagree re circumcision. Im not a “penis-haver” so can’t claim to have (or to have lost) “skin in the game”, excuse the terrible pun. I’m certainly not defending it here, just noting the difference in damage done.
As for ECT and other brain-damaging interventions, including some psych meds, I’m in total agreement with you. All psychiatric and medical procedures should be put to the “evidence” test. If this happened, much of psychiatry would be exposed as relying on specious and fabricated theories and as harmful. That’s not to say some drugs we call treatments aren’t necessary at times or mightn’t be helpful to some people, but the narrative that they target disease processes is complete rubbish, as is the claim that painful emotional states are evidence of a “disease”.
I just can’t get over how so many people can be so blind. This is children we are talking about, being wilfully mutilated. By doctors. Why isn’t more of the population outraged. And yet when I bring it up people who I have known for many years run and hide or block me or mention gibberish. Has everyone’s brains been taken by aliens?
This medicine has been promoted via mass media with very little detail about the actual interventions & the whole package dressed up with emotive appeals to validation of identity & ending discrimination. It requires a category shift for people to start thinking through the question of whether or not it is a medical scandal.
I've heard that a picture is worth a thousand words. Seeing a video of trans surgery may switch perceptions very quickly. Ever seen an arm after flesh is removed for a phalloplasty? It looks hideous.
It is also the responsibility of the LGBI communities to stand up for children. This hive mind that all parts of the Rainbow Flag are permanently glued together is ridiculous. By association, the rest of the Rainbow Alliance are also condoning the medical sterilization of children and I'm sure that can't be the case. Perhaps they are too scared to speak out and gee, doesn't that say something. I'd love to see an LGB without the T float in the Sydney Mardi-Gras parade.
Hence groups such as the LGB Alliance & Gays Against Groomers.
Yes. When I first started following Gays against Groomers I though it was Grays Against Groomers - a collection of old folk standing up for kids. True! I've since been to the ophthalmologist & have very bad cataracts. First replacement next Friday, other 2 weeks after. How many other things have I misread!!!!
"But if you don’t start treatment, they will always have trouble fitting in."
There it is. Right there. He assumes these kids will choose, and that it is best for them when they are mature adults, to medically transition. As if there is no other possible option for them. How on earth would he know? No one knows how to predict at that age and even older ones, where there are comorbidities, or developmental issues, or many other things....even older ones only have temporary gender dysphoria. What on earth is wrong with his thinking that he doesn't see this!???
Spack made that remark in 2008, I think. It would be interesting to know what he thinks now.
Interestingly Melbourne’s ‘The Royal Children’s Hospital Gender Service’ website states:
"1. Puberty suppression
Puberty blockers – prescribed by a paediatrician or paediatric endocrinologist.
Puberty blockers suppress the development of secondary sex characteristics and are used for adolescents in the early stages of pubertal development. As they are reversible in their effects, should an adolescent wish to stop taking them at any time, their biological puberty will resume."
I wonder if that statement would withstand scrutiny?
It definitely wouldn't, which is why the Tavistock clinic, which had been making similar claims, had to revise the statements on their website to something much more circumspect, in which they admitted that the long-term effects are unknown.
Gender health care is the only branch of medicine that seeks to damage or destroy healthy organs and natural functions. The fact that they're doing this to children who cannot knowingly consent to losing adult functions is unconscionable. And for what? A mysterious inner spirt that cannot be located or defined that they call "identity".
Of course every human who does indefensible things to another human has an ideological justification and these clinicians have wilfully stupefied themselves to avoid acknowlegding the reality of what they're doing.
In the words of Dietrich Bonhoeffer: “The fact that the stupid person is often stubborn must not blind us to the fact that he is not independent. In conversation with him, one virtually feels that one is dealing not at all with a person, but with slogans, catchwords and the like that have taken possession of him. He is under a spell, blinded, misused, and abused in his very being. Having thus become a mindless tool, the stupid person will also be capable of any evil and at the same time incapable of seeing that it is evil."
Yet those who uncritically endorse gender medicine are likely to be more educated, at least in a formal sense. Perhaps theirs is a higher stupidity.
Yes, definitely. As Orwell said “One has to belong to the intelligentsia to believe things like that: no ordinary man could be such a fool.".
I would like to add there are other branches of medicine that seeks to damage or destroy healthy organs and natural functions. Included are infant circumcision and psychiatric neurosurgery, formerly called psychosurgery, the best-known type is now out-of-fashion lobotomy. Also ECT.
You’re right of course, but lobotomy is no longer practised and penile circumcision doesn’t alter the organ or it’s function to anything like the degree that gender medicine damages organs and functions eg by completely removing organs or damaging them chemically, and by permanently deranging a person’s physiology. I know some will disagree re circumcision. Im not a “penis-haver” so can’t claim to have (or to have lost) “skin in the game”, excuse the terrible pun. I’m certainly not defending it here, just noting the difference in damage done.
As for ECT and other brain-damaging interventions, including some psych meds, I’m in total agreement with you. All psychiatric and medical procedures should be put to the “evidence” test. If this happened, much of psychiatry would be exposed as relying on specious and fabricated theories and as harmful. That’s not to say some drugs we call treatments aren’t necessary at times or mightn’t be helpful to some people, but the narrative that they target disease processes is complete rubbish, as is the claim that painful emotional states are evidence of a “disease”.
https://intactivist.org/wisdom/what-every-intactivist-must-know-about-transgender-ideology/ is a well-written article, including how trans ideology relates to lobotomies, infant circ etc.
Great, thanks.
I just can’t get over how so many people can be so blind. This is children we are talking about, being wilfully mutilated. By doctors. Why isn’t more of the population outraged. And yet when I bring it up people who I have known for many years run and hide or block me or mention gibberish. Has everyone’s brains been taken by aliens?
This medicine has been promoted via mass media with very little detail about the actual interventions & the whole package dressed up with emotive appeals to validation of identity & ending discrimination. It requires a category shift for people to start thinking through the question of whether or not it is a medical scandal.
I've heard that a picture is worth a thousand words. Seeing a video of trans surgery may switch perceptions very quickly. Ever seen an arm after flesh is removed for a phalloplasty? It looks hideous.